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Don’t Write Frameworks For Dummies

February 5th, 2009

Eric Evans offers this piece of advice:

Don’t write frameworks for dummies. [Frameworks designed by organizations] that assume some developers are not smart enough … are likely to fail because they underestimate the difficulty of … development. … This attitude also poisons the relationship between [the developers and framework designer]. - Eric Evans, Domain-Driven Design: Tackling Complexity in the Heart of Software

Evans goes on to make the point that there’s a fine line between designing for dummies, and providing useful encapsulation / abstraction. I found this advice interesting because I had been wrestling with whether the ASP.NET AJAX Framework is for Dummies.

Author: Adam Kahtava Categories: .NET, AJAX, ASP.NET, ASP.NET AJAX, Musings Tags:

MVC is a Welcome Addition to ASP.NET, but…. MVC Frameworks, like Ruby on Rails are More Mature

November 26th, 2008

The Model View Controller (MVC) pattern is a great addition to ASP.NET. The MVC pattern was first described in 1979 by the SmallTalk community - those crazy SmallTalk guys!

Today Wikipedia lists 80 different web frameworks that use MVC - with Java and PHP topping the list for the languages with the most MVC web frameworks. MVC enforces a separation of responsibilities: Markup / CSS / JavaScript, Domain Objects / Containers, and Actions / Controls are broken up into their respective directories. In addition MVC provides the ability to test most of your code and is more intuitive with how the web works (REST like, based on URIs, plays nicer with the browser, and not dependent on POST backs).

Finding good resources specifically for ASP.NET MVC is impossible at this time, but the books covering Ruby on Rails (RoR) are invaluable. RoR has been around since 2005, it uses the same basic MVC approach, similar routing, similar control structure, has a mature community, a large collection of plug-ins, and well established tools (anyone claiming that ASP.NET MVC can’t do what WebForms can, should look to Rails as an example). Gasp! It’s almost like ASP.NET MVC has copied Rails!! :)

Anyhow; the more I learn about Rails and Ruby, the more I realized that the communities like RoR (SmallTalk, and even some of the PHP world) are years ahead of my native .NET community. At this point I’m considering abandoning .NET in favour of Ruby / Rails / RSpec or at least Merb / Ruby / RSpec. In the future when ASP.NET MVC and IronRuby are more mature or when the corporate world starts using ASP.NET MVC (read never ever!) or when I’m approached to work on an ASP.NET MVC project I might move back into ASP.NET. In the mean time I’d like to contribute to IronRuby as I work towards jumping my current technology stack. I’ve armed myself with Textmate (the E Text Editor) and a MacBook Pro is in my future. I’ll get back to you on how this goes. :)

Author: Adam Kahtava Categories: .NET, ASP.NET, ASP.NET MVC, Merb, RoR Tags:

Winforms / Webforms Can Make You Obsolete: Framework or Metaphor Lock-in is a Liability For Your Career

October 13th, 2008

I’ve always been uncomfortable with the ASP.NET Webform / Winform metaphor - I moved to ASP.NET from ASP 3.0 / PHP with no proper Windows development experience. The Webform / Winform metaphor was alien, but the code behind model and the ability to re-use controls drew me in, while the Webform metaphor became a tolerated evil. Today ASP.NET MVC and the announcement that Microsoft has embraced jQuery keeps me interested.

As developers, limiting ourselves to a single metaphor, framework, or programming language is a liability to our career. In order to remain employable and engaged with our work, we need to understand the higher level concepts surrounding our chosen development arena - if you’re working in the webspace this means knowing CSS, JavaScript, HTML, and more than one server-side language. Then beyond technologies and languages we should be looking at transcending principals like design patterns, and good design practices.

identifying with anything so strongly that it starts to give you emotional reaction is really bad. You never know when your language is going to be obsolete or … your favorite framework is going to be replaced. … I would love to see everybody learn a bunch of languages because it does make you a better programmer. … Most people will never switch languages. - Steve Yegge, stackoverflow podcast #25 

How To Display Your Amazon Reviews and Wish List (on your site) Using Amazon's Web Services

October 6th, 2008

If you've ever landed on Amazon.com then you're probably familiar with their reviews and wish lists. Amazon provides access to these items (and many-many more) through their extensive web services - the Amazon web services can be complex and overwhelming when all you want is a review list and a single user specific wish list. For this site I wanted to pull in my reviews and wish list - displaying them alongside my blog. It's fair to note, that user reviews are available via an RSS feed (but this feed doesn't include all the details I wanted) and the wish list page still doesn't provide an RSS feed. So a custom Amazon web service request was in order.

Let me try to make this story short.

If you want to request your reviews and your wish list you need the following:

Once you have a wish list or review, you then need to:

Once you've collected all those bits, you need to:

  • Checkout and download the source code for the project and build the assembly or download the pre-compiled assembly.
  • Add the assembly reference to your project (remember, I'm assuming you're using .NET).
  • Make a call to the application which will generate XML files containing your respective reviews and wish list.

Setting up the call would look something like this:

IAmazonRequest amazonRequest = new AmazonRequest() {
     AssociateTag = “adamkahtavaap-20″,
     AWSAccessKeyId = “1MRF________MR2″,
     CustomerId = “A2JM0EQJELFL69″,
     ListId = “3JU6ASKNUS7B8″
};

IFileParameters fileParameters = new FileParameters() {
     ProductFileNameAndPath = @”Products.xml”,
     ReviewFileNameAndPath = @”Reviews.xml”,
     ErrorFileNameAndPath = @”Errors.xml”  
};

IAmazonApplication amazonApplication = new AmazonApplication(amazonRequest, fileParameters);

amazonApplication.Save();

   And Viola!

  • At this point you can do anything with your XML files (Products.xml, Reviews.xml, Errors.xml). I've consumed mine through an ASP.NET Repeater and displayed the contents within a web page (see it live here, view the code here).

If you'd like to provide some design guidance, fix a bug, or request a feature, then visit (or join) the project on Google Code.

Alternatively, you might also be interested in the LINQ To Amazon source featured in the book LINQ in Action.

Happy coding!

Author: Adam Kahtava Categories: .NET, ASP.NET, Open Source, Software, XML Tags:

Microsoft and jQuery Finally: Thank-You!

September 28th, 2008

Microsoft is looking to make jQuery part of their official development platform … jQuery will be distributed with Visual Studio
- jQuery, Microsoft, and Nokia

Other links of interest:

I was completely blindsided by this decision.

Author: Adam Kahtava Categories: .NET, AJAX, ASP.NET, ASP.NET AJAX, JavaScript Tags:

Cross Language Naming Conventions: Avoiding Verbosity In The Presentation Layer

August 29th, 2008

Most languages and technologies used in web applications come with their own unique naming conventions - which is unfortunate, but necessary, because diversity is important. Languages like JavaScript and PHP use camelCase, CSS uses-hyphenated-delimiters, and ASP.NET / Java / and the like adhere to the conventions used in their respective libraries and frameworks. Managing the different naming conventions in a web application can be difficult, but with discipline, embracing each language’s conventions can provide some great benefits.

A common mistake I’ve made in the past, was trying to make all languages adhere to a single convention. As a budding PHP / ASP developer I took the-single-convention-for-all-languages approach. In retrospect, I used this approach because I didn’t completely understand the language I was using, and in order to compensate for this lack of knowledge, I’d try to meld the languages into the mental model I understood best. This was a mistake.

Today, I find that working with the conventions of the language facilitates re-use (experts in the language understand what I’m doing), promotes portability (modules can be used across projects regardless of server-side technologies), encourages global collaboration (open source modules and plug-ins can be easily consumed and contributed to), and helps to a nurture a more maintainable application (developers from other language domains can easily maintain the application with a relatively small learning curve). Like a carpenter working with fine material, I embrace working with the grain of each language. It’s also fair to mention that breaking free from the monocultured (one-size-fits-all) approach to naming conventions provides a broader perspective, and also makes your development skills more universal - it might even open the door to different development domains in the future.

Then there’s the discussion on name length, verbosity, and using meaningful names. Steve McConnell suggests that the optimum name size for a variable or function is between 8 and 20 characters (Chapter 11, Code Complete), but with tools like ReSharper (for renaming / refactoring etc…) I find myself using names well over 30 characters. So names like GetApproveeTotalFromNamedBasket are a common occurrence in my code. However, like most things, verbosity does need balance (everything in moderation right?). In the business layer, descriptive names are a godsend - they jog my memory as I rediscover what the module I wrote last month was supposed to do. But… in the presentation layer languages (like JavaScript, CSS,  ASP.NET, or XHTML) you may want to reconsider using long descriptive names. Since verbose, long running descriptive names in the presentation layer are passed over the network and can degrade performance. Often times these verbose names are combined together - throw in ASP.NET name mangeling, start hooking in verbose CSS definitions, and then start inserting JavaScript events. All this compounds quickly and result in large page payloads filled with elements like the following:

<div id="ctl00_ContentPlaceHolderForAllTheBestImprotantContent
 _PanelForTheBestReviews"
<a onclick="LinkButtonClick_ThankYouForTakingTheTimeToReadThis();" 
 id="ctl00_ContentPlaceHolderForAllTheBestImprotantContent_
 RepeaterForAllMyFavoriteBookReiews_ctl00_
 LinkButtonMarkReviewAsFavorite"
 class="LinkFormatingCssClass SelectedLinkFormatingCssClass" 
 href="javascript:__doPostBack( 
 ctl00$ContentPlaceHolderForAllTheBestImprotantContent$ 
 RepeaterForAllMyFavoriteBookReiews$ctl00$LinkButtonMarkReviewAsFavorite'
 ,'')">Mark As Favorite </a> 

Note: That mess of code above would fire a JavaScript event then an ASP.NET event. It’s the result of placing an ASP.NET LinkButton, inside a Repeater, inside a Panel, inside a Masterpage, and adding a JavaScript event along with some CSS. We can see that using long names in the presentation layers results in a mess of text. It’s also fair to mention that the ASP.NET MVC Framework lets developers write cleaner presentation code.
Sure, everyone cites premature optimization as the root of all evil, and we do live in a world of gzip file compression and JavaScript minifiers. But… keeping names short in CSS, ASP.NET, and XHTML isn’t hard as long as you’re mindful of the final goal. Smaller names in the presentation layer will reduce the amount of data transferred over the network which increase the performance of the application.

Joseph Smarr of Plaxo.com once said:

Web applications are only slow if you let them get slow - Douglas Crockford, Alex Russell and Joseph Smarr: On the Past, Present and Future of JavaScript [30:00]

My preference (project requirements warranting) is to keep things short and concise in the presentation languages while using longer descriptive names outside the presentation languages. What’s your preference?

Writing a Control for the AJAX Control Toolkit: How ASP.NET AJAX Failed

June 7th, 2008

One of my resolutions this year was to contribute to the AJAX Control Toolkit for the ASP.NET AJAX Framework. I began my AJAX Control Toolkit development quest by digging into the online resources, reading ASP.NET AJAX in Action, and decomposing the AJAX Control Toolkit. I noted the huge learning curve required to developing a control, and continued to dig deeper. Once mired in ASP.NET AJAX a bad smell kept wafting by. Since then I’ve been trying to distinguish this smell.

What’s really wrong with ASP.NET AJAX?

  • It doesn’t plan for performance from day one
  • It treats AJAX as a classic computer science problem
  • It tries to turn JavaScript into a classical language which works against JavaScript’s dynamic, prototypical nature
  • It feels like a framework that was written for dummies (Don’t Write Frameworks For Dummies)

A Case Study: Why Plaxo.com Almost Failed

In the video: High-performance JavaScript: Why Everything You’ve Been Taught is Wrong (YUI Theater) Joseph Smarr discusses the challenges and lessons learned while developing Plaxo.com. While developing this AJAX centric application, the Plaxo team decided to include everything they could think of into their application. They created a framework to treat JavaScript as a classical language, they gave priority to features over performance, and… the project ALMOST FAILED. They were able to salvage their application by diverting their development efforts, making performance one of their top priorities, by unlearning everything they’d been taught about classical applications (instead embracing JavaScript), jettisoning unneeded framework bloat, and more.

Some of the points made in this video were:

  • Plan for performance from day one
  • AJAX is not a classic problem
  • JavaScript is not a classical programming language
  • User experience and a responsive application can make or break an application
  • Unneeded bloat in a framework, and an obtuse approach to using AJAX (treating AJAX and JavaScript as a classical language or classic computer science problem) has the potential to cripple your application

This Channel 9 video also mirrors these sentiments: Douglas Crockford, Alex Russell and Joseph Smarr: On the Past, Present and Future of JavaScript

How ASP.NET AJAX Failed: What can we learn from Plaxo?

The way the Plaxo team approached their application development is similar to how the ASP.NET AJAX Framework has been designed. Like Plaxo’s initial attempt ASP.NET AJAX attempts to mold JavaScript into a classical language, and attempts to treat JavaScript and AJAX as a classic computer science problem by heaping on more abstractions. Like Plaxo’s initial attempt ASP.NET AJAX also gives a low priority to performance. Plaxo was able to change their direction and salvaged their application, but the ASP.NET AJAX Framework is not in a position to make any sweeping changes - ASP.NET AJAX is going down the wrong path and it’s too late.

The ASP.NET AJAX Framework is probably another exercise in Framework Architecture (demoware) and a failure in practice. Its lack of use in the wild attests to these shortcomings - contrast the sites using ASP.NET AJAX with the sites using jQuery (Actions Speak Louder Than Words). Furthermore the places that ASP.NET AJAX does thrive (the small internal ASP.NET business apps that need some bling-bling) will also be the areas that Silverlight shines - Silverlight offers a better Microsoft centric programming model (less leaky Win Form / Web Form abstractions) that most Microsoft developers will embrace. Silverlight will probably divert the developers that currently embrace ASP.NET AJAX.

I don’t recommend the ASP.NET AJAX Framework and won’t be contributing to the AJAX Control Toolkit. My time is better spent elsewhere.

Author: Adam Kahtava Categories: .NET, AJAX, ASP.NET, ASP.NET AJAX, JavaScript Tags:

More on the perils of The ASP.NET AJAX Framework

June 3rd, 2008

There’s no need to whip a dead horse (I’ve probably been griping about the ASP.NET AJAX Framework for too long), but… Jon Galloway and a group of other notable gurus (K. Scott Allen, Scott Koon, and Kevin Dente) have started a podcast, their latest segment sparked my interest since it covered ASP.NET AJAX and AJAX Libraries / Frameworks in general.

I share their sentiments so I thought I’d post a brief but choppy transcript:

[ASP.NET AJAX] … does offer some some nice features, they did try to take some of the common pieces of the CLR that [.NET Developers are] used to working with and move that down into a JavaScript library. So you get classes like a WebRequest class that wraps the XMLHttpRequest … and they have a StringBuilder, and they added methods that we’re more accustom with …

that’s wonderful, but I don’t find myself needing those extensions all that often. If you want to do strictly client-side programming then something like jQuery offers you a lot more capabilities to do things that you really want to do client-side like sorting and CSS selectors. … That stuff is easy to do with an Update Panel and ASP.NET, but Update Panels aren’t always the best solution to use. …

the goals with ASP.NET AJAX was to integrate into the ASP.NET server-side model … that’s great for ASP.NET, but it needs more client-side features. … It works if your thinking from the ASP.NET control perspective, but if you look at it outside the ASP.NET model there are a lot easier ways to do it.

ASP.NET AJAX [development] seems to have come to a standstill I’m not seeing a lot of development in that area and the rest of these [AJAX] Frameworks are doing monthly releases. Every month that goes by [the ASP.NET AJAX Framework] falls further and further behind … it needs to evolve.

Listen to this podcast here: Technology Round Table Podcast #2 - AJAX Frameworks

Author: Adam Kahtava Categories: .NET, AJAX, ASP.NET, ASP.NET AJAX, CSS, DOM, JavaScript Tags:

The Good Parts of The ASP.NET Framework and Visual Studio

May 31st, 2008

Douglas Crockford opens his latest book with these words:

Most programming languages contain good parts and bad parts. … [the language designers or architects] are usually powerless to do anything except heap more features on top of the existing pile of imperfections. And the new features do not always interact harmoniously, thus producing more bad parts. - JavaScript: The Good Parts by Douglas Crockford

His words can apply to all programming languages and frameworks. Like the Microsoft .NET Framework, Visual Studio, Java, and Eclipse.

Bad parts in the ASP.NET Framework and Visual Studio:

  • ASP.NET Themes and Skins
  • The ASP.NET AJAX Framework
  • ASP.NET / Visual Studio Inline Style Properties
  • Visual Studio Design View
  • ASP.NET and Visual Studio’s over dependency on XML configuration files

It would be great if someone wrote a book outlining the good parts of ASP.NET and Visual Studio. :)

Author: Adam Kahtava Categories: ASP.NET, JavaScript, Musings, Themes and Skins Tags:

Getting a Job at Google: A Web Developer Fizzbuzz

May 24th, 2008

Back when the web turned 2.0, AJAX was all the rage, and gas was cheap, a Google recruiter contacted me. We worked through a couple screening interviews - I explained how I was a .NET / ASP.NET / C# developer with some experience with Java and PHP, I described how C# was somewhat similar to Java. Things went great, I moved on to the next step of the process - writing code (a JavaScript widget for Gmail) with a 2 day (weekend) hard deadline. At the time I was wearing JavaScript diapers, but tried the exercise anyways - I'm still convinced the recruiter confused my Java / C# experience with JavaScript. Anyhow…

The Google Web Developer Exercise:

Web Developer Exercise

Attached are three states of a new contacts widget. This widget will be used across Google and may be anywhere on the page. Designers will also use this in mocks for usability tests. Create the HTML, CSS, and JavaScript for the widget as described in the image. Your solution must work in Firefox v1.5+ and IE v6+. Bonus points for a solution that degrades nicely on older browsers.



After my first attempt, I concluded that:

  1. My JavaScript knowledge was embarrassing
  2. Dynamic programming languages like JavaScript using prototypical inheritance were awesome - as a monocultured .NET developer I had sorely been missing out
  3. Framework Web Developers (ASP.NET, Ruby on Rails, and so on) aren't really Web Developers - we depend on a framework (an API) as a crutch, where the law of Leaky Abstractions is very real, and often when it rears it's head we use our golden hammer (our multipurpose language of choice), but there are better tools at hand
  4. Web Developers claiming n years of experience need to at least know JavaScript, CSS, HTML / XHTML, a server-side language, and some XML / XSL - NOT just a single multipurpose language or framework
  5. Innovation can only happen when you become one with the technologies surrounding your realm - for example: Jesse James Garrett probably would not have publicized AJAX had he been an exclusive ASP.NET developer. Diversity is essential for innovation

In retrospect this exercise is brilliant, it's a more complex derivation of a Fizzbuzz exercise, which effectively weeds out the knowledgeable candidates from the n00bs. JavaScript is notorious for being one of the world's most misunderstood language, many developer (and the ASP.NET Framework) still use JavaScript techniques from the old days of Netscape. For example: <a onclick=”return false;” …, or <a href=”Javascript: do something;” … are common DOM Level 0 inline techniques that should be avoided. These techniques have been replaced, but finding developer that use these JavaScript techniques can be hard.

By having a developer complete this exercise you effectively determine that the they understands these concepts:

  • Cross browser compatibilities and work arounds for both JavaScript and CSS - with a preference given to feature detection (object detection) vs browser detection, an understanding of the different event handling models between browsers
  • An understanding of the separation of concerns - JavaScript, markup, and CSS should be separate files, or at least separated within the document
  • Event registration and listening - DOM events, the different browser event models, no inline level 0 event declarations, no pseudo JavaScript protocol inline declarations within markup
  • An understanding of functional languages - closures, namespaces, lambdas, recursion where necessary
  • Node manipulation - creating, swapping, removing elements
  • Knowledge of non-obtrusive JavaScript techniques
  • Importance of modular / compartmentalization of CSS and JavaScript - defensive programming techniques that minimize the risk of interfering with other scripts and elements within the page, part of the non-obtrusive techniques, how to avoid global variables
  • An understanding on how to debug JavaScript from both IE (link) and Firefox (link)
  • JavaScript code conventions - naming conventions, statement conventions
  • CSS naming conventions
  • General DHTML / AJAX techniques - showing and hiding elements
  • A gauge on their attention to details and UI design intuition - what their gut tells them to do when things aren't spelled out

My latest crack at the Google Web Developer Exercise:

You'll have to visit my site (view this blog post outside a RSS reader) to view the code in action.

The code: GoogleExercise.js, GoogleExercise.html, GoogleExercise.css

Today I'm wearing JavaScript training wheels - feel free to comment on the code, I'm always looking for improvements and suggestions. I did take a couple shortcuts on the CSS / UI side of things as I was focusing more on the functionality.

Using one of the AJAX Libraries (like jQuery) we could certainly do this exercise in significantly fewer lines of code.

Today I still think about Getting that job at Google, Yahoo!, Amazon, or Microsoft. How well do you know JavaScript?